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Since they just made the timed SX races official and posted about it on SXlive's IG account, I've seen comments of tons of fans who are sad, mad, and even pissed to the point where one guy said "I will not be watching anymore" XD Are these just misinformed/not true fans or am I missing the cons of this change? I think it makes too much sense.
The Shop
The shortest 250? Santa Clara, at 11:18.
The shortest 450? Santa Clara, at 14:38.
The longest 250? Las Vegas, at 17:46.
The longest 450? Las Vegas, as 21:00.
250
A1 15:43.670
SD1 12:32.000
A2 14:52.292
Oakland 13:47.059
Glendale 16:06.892
SD2 15:00.575
Arlington 13:07.204
Atlanta 12:03.638
Daytona 17:25.668
Toronto 14:24.917
Detroit 12:11.210
Santa Clara 11:18.491
Indianapolis 12:32.380
St. Louis 14:16.009
Foxborough 15:11.488
East Rutherford 11:42.330
Las Vegas 17:46.707
450
A1 20:57.823
SD1 16:34.006
A2 19:25.414
Oakland 17:59.908
Glendale 21:06.141
SD2 19:37.252
Arlington 17:09.208
Atlanta 15:26.334
Daytona 22:09.070
Toronto 18:32.119
Detroit 15:53.440
Santa Clara 14:38.083
Indianapolis 15:43.653
St. Louis 18:14.137
Foxborough 19:35.153
East Rutherford 15:13.858
Las Vegas 21:00.243
Now it's in Supercross.
Allmost all major sports are timed, NFL, NBA, NHL. Heck people don't know it but F1 and MotoGP are timed to, they calculate the average lap time and fit it into the TV window of 45 minutes(MotoGP) or 2 hours(F1).
''The shortest 250? Santa Clara, at 11:18.
The shortest 450? Santa Clara, at 14:38.
The longest 250? Las Vegas, at 17:46.
The longest 450? Las Vegas, as 21:00.''
As KBOLTZ said, can't argue with facts. Plus it could be really cool if some of the top guys came from the back (like Tomac who has bad starts frequently) and the leader crosses the line with 19 minutes and 55 seconds. That means he has 2 more laps to do instead of 1. I always love (and sometimes hate
http://www.vitalmx.com/videos/features/Countdown-To-Supercross-Eli-Toma…
A1 15:43.670 Baseball
SD1 12:32.000 Baseball
A2 14:52.292 Baseball
Oakland 13:47.059 Baseball/Football
Glendale 16:06.892 Football
SD2 15:00.575 Baseball
Arlington 13:07.204 Football
Atlanta 12:03.638 Football
Daytona 17:25.668 NASCAR
Toronto 14:24.917 Baseball/Football
Detroit 12:11.210 Football
Santa Clara 11:18.491 Football
Indianapolis 12:32.380 Football
St. Louis 14:16.009 Football
Foxborough 15:11.488 Football
East Rutherford 11:42.330 Football
Las Vegas 17:46.707 Football +
450
A1 20:57.823
SD1 16:34.006
A2 19:25.414
Oakland 17:59.908
Glendale 21:06.141
SD2 19:37.252
Arlington 17:09.208
Atlanta 15:26.334
Daytona 22:09.070
Toronto 18:32.119
Detroit 15:53.440
Santa Clara 14:38.083
Indianapolis 15:43.653
St. Louis 18:14.137
Foxborough 19:35.153
East Rutherford 15:13.858
Las Vegas 21:00.243
BTW, I have been suggesting 20 plus 1 and 15 plus 1 in SX for a few years now. Good move for sure.
Pit Row
I've read here, but more so on other sites, where people have regarded the SX mains as too long.................... it seems that limited attention spans are not limited to the youth of today, as most that bitched about races being too long, were not 'youths'.
If so many can sit watching FI / Nascar, any number of piss poor stick and ball games, for near hours at a time, you'd think that something with so much constant action and 'colour', such as SX, would keep their attention.
We are down to 30 +2 in MX, with the US having had that for a long time, and then, sadly the GPs going to it in 2014 (2015?). At least it made the GP Motos the same length as the MXDN Motos - they had been 30 + 2 for a long time.
With bikes being so good, with so many riders training 'scientifically', it's sad that we are ever shortening races. 'TV' is given as a reason for that, but hell, they still carve the race coverage to hell, even in short SX races. So, we will probably see a few 23 /24 / 25 minute long 450 SX Mains - well, perhaps a bit of that time..... Ads need to be scheduled, but you'd think that producers / suppliers would think a bit about the ad structure / placement.
This 20 +2, and the change to 250s, is at least a bit of a reversal of that trend. Good stuff.
Don't be such a curmudgeon.
If they are on Instagram in a matter of hours it is not casual fans. It is most likely uninformed fans who don't understand what it means and think they are getting less racing for their dollar?
There is some chance that it is informed fans who were hoping for something more in the way of changes rather than a little trim around the edges in an area that will have a minimal impact on the end result and just prolong the inevitable. I doubt that is it, most of those fans have become complacent over the decades like Mitch Payton has.
I still find it curious why in the press release (which was prepared by who?) they felt a need to troll us with a bit of history about '85 with 2 mains being considered the best season ever? Where is that coming from? Do they have something else in the works?
Anaheim 1 (how many more or fewer laps under timed format)
250 heat 1: same
250 heat 2: same
250 lcq: same
250 main: same
450 heat 1: same
450 heat 2: same
450 semi 1: One more with timed
450 semi 2: One more with timed
450 lcq: One more with timed
450 main: same
Keep in mind, the other good thing is that it no longer matters if the first lap is super short (as is often the case, the first lap is shorter than a full lap). I don't think many tracks have an extra long first lap but I could be wrong.
Lastly, I wonder how this rule works out for red-flagged races. If it is red-flagged mid race so that there is not a complete gate restart, when does the clock start and stop?
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