All Balls bearings??

Kyriazis298
Edited Date/Time 11/14/2014 8:26am
Are they good quality?

Thinking of buying the crank bearings and all other bearings for the bike.. OEM are backordered and i need them soon

Also how are the hot rods tranny bearings??
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queen of spodes 11/13/2014 6:01pm
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I used All Balls for swingarm & linkage bearings. Did not trust them for engine bearings.. OEM in the engine.
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bradmx421 11/13/2014 6:02pm
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I am very familiar with them, they are good quality bearings....for wheels, linkage, shocks, swingarms.

But I would recommend staying with OEM for every bearing inside your motor.(unless your upgrading to roller bearings, which are still KTM OEM technically)
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JBernard_401 11/13/2014 6:06pm
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i want to so All Balls are KML bearings. so they arent that bad. but for internal i'd go OEM

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SteveB 11/13/2014 6:21pm
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Hey all, first post.

I actually purchased All Balls crank bearnings for my 06 Kx250F from Rocky Mountain a few months ago, and they turned out to be the same brand of bearing as the OEM part I was replacing.

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Ross_McWatters 11/13/2014 6:50pm
11/13/2014 6:50pm
I have had bad experiences with the Hot Rods main bearing, H had been fitting them for a couple of years and then they stopped coming with Japanese bearing and started to come with "Hot Rods' lasered into the them ...then they started to fail quite quickly. We had 2 bikes go in quick time (under 5 hours) and caused a lot of drama and expense. Hot rod's importer here did nothing for us. Stick to OEM!



Kyriazis298 11/13/2014 7:29pm
11/13/2014 7:29pm
me_da_racer wrote:
Hotrod has good crank bearing at a good price.
I refuse to use the hotrods crank bearings, they are made in taiwan but i hear the tranny bearings are made in japan so just wanted to know
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OEM are most likely NSK bearings for Japanese bikes. NSK and Timken are probably the best bearings companies in the world. There is a lot of technology used to make these products.

I was at one point in my life involved with mfg/selling the vibration equipment used to monitor and test the bearings both during the mfg process and in the field. Some of these vibration monitors went on to large machines that if they tossed a bearing it was millions to fix. Thus they would monitor the bearings vibration rates and so they cold tell before there was a failure that they needed to be replaced. Timken was a large customer of ours. What we sold them was all used to monitor the testing/QA process to see if they were smooth bearings or not.

Like the others said before me: stick to the OEM bearings for internal engine stuff. They are very good bearings and it's not worth the risk to try something that's maybe a little cheaper. Blown engines are expensive and time consuming to fix!
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malachi177 11/13/2014 8:36pm
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I'm running Hotrods cranks in both my RM's. Been two years so far, no issues. They're not crap.
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lostboy819 wrote:
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Preferable prestone.... No....Make that Quaker state

I have the the all balls in my linkage and everything seemed equal to OEM. I agree with everyone else on the internal bearings and would only use OEM inside the engine!
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JBernard_401 11/13/2014 8:48pm
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PTshox wrote:
OEM are most likely NSK bearings for Japanese bikes. NSK and Timken are probably the best bearings companies in the world. There is a lot of...
OEM are most likely NSK bearings for Japanese bikes. NSK and Timken are probably the best bearings companies in the world. There is a lot of technology used to make these products.

I was at one point in my life involved with mfg/selling the vibration equipment used to monitor and test the bearings both during the mfg process and in the field. Some of these vibration monitors went on to large machines that if they tossed a bearing it was millions to fix. Thus they would monitor the bearings vibration rates and so they cold tell before there was a failure that they needed to be replaced. Timken was a large customer of ours. What we sold them was all used to monitor the testing/QA process to see if they were smooth bearings or not.

Like the others said before me: stick to the OEM bearings for internal engine stuff. They are very good bearings and it's not worth the risk to try something that's maybe a little cheaper. Blown engines are expensive and time consuming to fix!
1. SKF Explorer
2, SKF Standard
3. NSK
4. OEM



Kyriazis298 11/13/2014 9:04pm
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malachi177 wrote:
I'm running Hotrods cranks in both my RM's. Been two years so far, no issues. They're not crap.
I run hotrod cranks, not there bearings.
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Svenska Kullagerfabriken all the way.
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BAMX 11/13/2014 10:33pm
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Hot rod crank and bearings in my 125 for 2 years with no issues. OEM is better though IMO. I have used the All Ball kits for steering and linkage with no issues but I don't think that I would go with them inside the motor. There should be a number etched into the side of the bearing that you can cross at a bearing supply. Also, just because bearings are made in Taiwan, they aren't necessarily bad. Big companies like SKF, make their bearings all over the world. It is about who makes them not where.

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Deetsmx 11/13/2014 11:14pm
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I'm laying here with a cracked fibula thanks to aftermarket crank bearings. Not going to name the brand, but stick to oem.
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Frodad78 11/14/2014 5:16am
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used them in my stem and linkage bearings 2 years ago, no issues to report.
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I don't contribute to China's economy. It's expensive, and requires patience, but I sleep better at night.

All Balls, Tusk, Bike Master, and numerous others can all eat a dick.
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resetjet 11/14/2014 5:27am
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I used the all balls in my KTM 200.....No problems after 100 hours or so.
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pete24 11/14/2014 6:37am
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call world wide bearings. com and get ceramic bearings for everything, they will cost you 5 times what everything else cost, but they are the best
Kyriazis298 11/14/2014 8:04am
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pete24 wrote:
call world wide bearings. com and get ceramic bearings for everything, they will cost you 5 times what everything else cost, but they are the best
So your saying i can change all my bearings 5 times before the ceramic bearings pay off? i wont have the bike in 5 bearing changes lol..
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O___o 11/14/2014 8:15am
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pete24 wrote:
call world wide bearings. com and get ceramic bearings for everything, they will cost you 5 times what everything else cost, but they are the best
Kyriazis298 wrote:
So your saying i can change all my bearings 5 times before the ceramic bearings pay off? i wont have the bike in 5 bearing changes...
So your saying i can change all my bearings 5 times before the ceramic bearings pay off? i wont have the bike in 5 bearing changes lol..
what he is saying is that you wont get the reduction of drivetrain loss and peace of mind with those chinese bearings.


if All Balls and Pivot Works made an airplane, would you fly in it?

Tusk Airlines, bro.
Kyriazis298 11/14/2014 8:26am
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pete24 wrote:
call world wide bearings. com and get ceramic bearings for everything, they will cost you 5 times what everything else cost, but they are the best
Kyriazis298 wrote:
So your saying i can change all my bearings 5 times before the ceramic bearings pay off? i wont have the bike in 5 bearing changes...
So your saying i can change all my bearings 5 times before the ceramic bearings pay off? i wont have the bike in 5 bearing changes lol..
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what he is saying is that you wont get the reduction of drivetrain loss and peace of mind with those chinese bearings. if All Balls and...
what he is saying is that you wont get the reduction of drivetrain loss and peace of mind with those chinese bearings.


if All Balls and Pivot Works made an airplane, would you fly in it?

Tusk Airlines, bro.
I ordered all OEM stuff yesturday so just waiting now..

And i dont think many factory teams use these worldwidebearings that cost 5 times what oem costs lol i know for a fact Geico honda uses OEM, ive seen the inside of 2 of there motors ;D

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