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I, personally loved the call-out for testing during the SX series. They hit Canard, Dungey, and Hill. That was almost ... no, it WAS ...comical.
At best, they had a 33% chance at success. (what are they gonna find in Canard's system, pudding?)
The Shop
maybe if they test Zach they might find hes been abusing that performance enhancing milk and cookies
In AMA, when is the last time somebody got in trouble??? Let's ask Ping or DV12 what they think about it.
On top of that, all the body building bullshit products, supervitamins etc that you can get in stores in the Us aren't allowed in most of europe, so even the rules are not the same.
Just for J. Sloan, pot isn't a PED. Who cares if Hill is high as a kite.
I am not sure if it was this year or last, but all SX riders now also have to sign an FIM anti doping policy that is carried about by WADA. Testing is random and they dont know when/what races they are going to show up at.
In the past the AMA testing was only for recreational drugs. But now that they are also under the FIM, its a whole different ballgame.
Not sure anyone wants to catch anyone though...
Pit Row
The only input that the promoters and sanctioning bodies have is what the level of testing is (urine or full blood) and at which events they test at. Both of these are money issues. Once the test samples are taken, it is out of the sanctioning body and promoters hands. This includes sanctions, as you will soon see when JS7 gets a 1 or 2 year ban from WADA (unless FELD decides to stick up for him, and break from having a sanctioning body). Once the test samples are coded, they go to a lab, and they are handled no differently than they would be for an Olympic athlete or Tour deFrance cyclist for a given test type.
Where do you people come up with these conclusions? All it takes is some basic research into how USADA and WADA function to know how this all works.
In the last year I believe that FELD/SX only did urine. MX sports did blood at Lakewood, and urine at Unadilla. So in that respect, the MX Sports testing was more stringent. Also, both Dungey and RV have been on the WADA watch list in the past. In the year period they were on the list, each was tested at least once...full blood screen.
Also...isn't strange how the fast guys now...were the fast guys on minis? I guess they were all doping in Jr high too?
I can not imagine how anyone will conclude that JS7 getting a 12-24 month ban will be good for the sport. Love him or hate him, he is a huge wild card. You never know what you will get. It could be a bobble and a DNF....or a mind blowing ride like Toronto where he is doing things no one else can. It is just sad.
Fair for 1 fair for all
FIM is gonna decide the penalty, WADA provides the guidelines. I literally talked to a FELD promoter and thats what he told me.
Feld certainly has an interest in seeing a lesser penalty. I have not heard of cases where a severe WADA penalty was ignored by a sanctioning body without serious consequences (ie, WADA parting ways with them) to the sanctioning body. You think FIM is really going to get sideways with WADA to protect Stew? There have been some issues like this in the boxing world.
I hope that the interests of FELD weigh in on the penalty, but what the FELD representative told you does not rule out a severe penalty. Where is the FIM based? Where is WADA based? How important is FELD, a Monster Truck Jam and Circus promoter to them?
As to all my other points, if I am clueless, please comment on my errors. Don't bring weak ass ad hominem attacks while failing to offer counter points. Step up and explain where I am wrong.
Here is what I have stated:
1. The AMA and FIM have contracted with USADA and WADA, 3rd party ADOs.
2. AMA and FIM do not have testing programs. They have bought the 3rd party programs of ADOs.
3. The samples are taken by USADA and WADA staff.
4. They are coded and set to USADA/WADA approved labs.
5. The samples are tested to standards the same as for any other WADA / USADA tested athlete, such as an Olympian.
6. The UCI has less credibility than USADA and WADA, not more, in light of their decades of corruption due to conflict of interests.
7. The fact that the UCI has an ABP program, and MX Sports can not afford to implement WADAs ABP program does not mean the AMA program has less credibility. The UCI failures in the past were not failures of technology, they were failures of corruption and conflict of interest.
Please tell me where I am clueless.
In there case, FIM would not be going against what WADA says because WADA helps FIM with what they will say.
Ive heard things of a 2 year ban, but talking to the promoter he told me that there is nothing right now and apparently all papers have been filled and are being reviewed.
Its a waiting game.
Calling me clueless for pointing out the disparity in testing procedures is what started this straw man exchange. If you think there is equity between the two then you're nuts.
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