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Black Diesel Bomber

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7/21/2012 4:54 PM

I think a few Vital tards learned something today about blocking, one lined tracks that are difficult to pass on, and a champion who was being cautious about passing someone who will brake check you or push your kill switch button...

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7/21/2012 4:58 PM

Black Diesel Bomber wrote: I think a few Vital tards learned something today about blocking, one lined tracks that are difficult to pass on, and a champion who was being cautious about passing someone who will brake check you or push your kill switch button...

I don't often...ever do this...but FUCK YOU.

If it ain't yer's don't take it, If it ain't the truth dont say it, If it ain't right don't do it...Marcus Aurelius

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7/21/2012 5:01 PM

It must be embarassing not to be able to pass such of slow guy in the first moto!

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7/21/2012 5:01 PM

Nice looking track, but not good racing on it. Might help if there were more than one good line in every corner...

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7/21/2012 5:15 PM

thank you Mike for keeping me awake during the 450 race for once...

you don't block somebody for 30+2 laps...Mike was on it...

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7/21/2012 5:17 PM

Hey, you guys talk like blocking is not a skill. Alessi put on one of the greatest defensive rides I have ever seen today. That's a part of racing, and he did a damn good job of it today and beat Ryan straight up.

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7/21/2012 5:21 PM

DPW wrote: thank you Mike for keeping me awake during the 450 race for once...

you don't block somebody for 30+2 laps...Mike was on it...

When that same guy in second wins by 31 seconds in the second Moto, then yes, he was blocked for 30+2.

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7/21/2012 5:23 PM

However, Dungey's inability to force the issue... Jesus...

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7/21/2012 5:24 PM

watson wrote: However, Dungey's inability to force the issue... Jesus...

Yes Sir!

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7/21/2012 5:27 PM

There's no doubt he was blocked, you could see him slamming on the brakes to keep from running into the back of Mike. \\That's part of racing but I'd be pretty upset if I was Dungey. Not to mention it looked to me like some of Dungey's issues may have had something to do with Alessi drifting over in the air to block and swerving around the track.

Good job to Alessi though, I hope he gains some confidence and is able to run with the top guys like he used to.

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7/21/2012 5:27 PM

Hank_Thrill wrote: Hey, you guys talk like blocking is not a skill. Alessi put on one of the greatest defensive rides I have ever seen today. That's a part of racing, and he did a damn good job of it today and beat Ryan straight up.

Agreed and I give it up to Alessi for not cracking under pressure....my post is for all the tards who claimed Dungey got "spanked" and "was not blocking" and "Dungey attitude", etc...I'm not arguing that Alessi didn't do a good job of blocking to win that moto. RD was smart to be very cautious to pass considering you never know what 800 might do.

Do the tards expect Dungey to pull over after the moto and say "hey Mike, congrats for successfully blocking my ass for 35min"...not going to happen. RD gave him a thumbs up like a true champion, and that was more than enough.

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7/21/2012 5:30 PM

changing lines in the air in not cool

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7/21/2012 5:33 PM

watson wrote: However, Dungey's inability to force the issue... Jesus...

You have to remember RD is thinking championship....why would he force the issue on someone so sketchy who might brake check, push kill switch, grab your front brake lever, push you wide into the crowd??? Not worth it. Just be cautious and get the job done in moto2 and win by 31.45 seconds.

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7/21/2012 5:33 PM

DPW wrote: thank you Mike for keeping me awake during the 450 race for once...

you don't block somebody for 30+2 laps...Mike was on it...

watson wrote: When that same guy in second wins by 31 seconds in the second Moto, then yes, he was blocked for 30+2.

Bingo. But I do have to say (and this is coming from a Dungey fan) I believe Villopoto would have put Alessi on the ground before he let that happen. All this crossing lines and cutting over in the air that Alessi is doing is going to get someone killed.

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7/21/2012 6:00 PM

watson wrote: However, Dungey's inability to force the issue... Jesus...

Agreed and as president of the Dungey fanboy club, I must say it's frustrating lol. RV or even JS dispose of the riders in front of them in quick fashion. I would even throw BB in there as a master passer. Dunge just doesn't force the issue. It doesn't matter if he takes his time when it's just one guy ahead of him. But if there was a couple, he can't afford to be patient. Pretty soon he's going to have 4 guys lining up against him of equal speed. What then? At least his starts are consistently good so he doesn't have to pass much

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7/21/2012 7:00 PM

watson wrote: However, Dungey's inability to force the issue... Jesus...

chrisbuehler wrote: Agreed and as president of the Dungey fanboy club, I must say it's frustrating lol. RV or even JS dispose of the riders in front of them in quick fashion. I would even throw BB in there as a master passer. Dunge just doesn't force the issue. It doesn't matter if he takes his time when it's just one guy ahead of him. But if there was a couple, he can't afford to be patient. Pretty soon he's going to have 4 guys lining up against him of equal speed. What then? At least his starts are consistently good so he doesn't have to pass much

"Pretty soon he's going to have 4 guys lining up against him of equal speed. What then?"

Fourth place like before?



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7/21/2012 7:21 PM

as i mentioned in the race thread, some of you should go back and watch 06 RC vs JS at Shougal, RC tried everything he could and finally had to just punt James off the track, he even apologized after the moto saying there was no other way around on this track. Shoulgal has always been tough to pass on, and Mikey makes it ever more difficult.

All in all it made for a really damn exciting race! a helluva lot more exciting than the 2nd moto. Kudos to Mikey for the W, and all the sweeter for dong it in MCR's backyard (so to speak)

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7/21/2012 7:26 PM

watson wrote: However, Dungey's inability to force the issue... Jesus...

chrisbuehler wrote: Agreed and as president of the Dungey fanboy club, I must say it's frustrating lol. RV or even JS dispose of the riders in front of them in quick fashion. I would even throw BB in there as a master passer. Dunge just doesn't force the issue. It doesn't matter if he takes his time when it's just one guy ahead of him. But if there was a couple, he can't afford to be patient. Pretty soon he's going to have 4 guys lining up against him of equal speed. What then? At least his starts are consistently good so he doesn't have to pass much

machine wrote: "Pretty soon he's going to have 4 guys lining up against him of equal speed. What then?"

Fourth place like before?



Gonna be interesting to see what Reed, James and RV bring.

Reed, another kid, a long time off, hurt pretty bad.
James, a wrist can take a long time. Sometimes it never comes back.
RV, I hate to say it, but does a knee ever get back 100%?

All the while, Dungey get's stronger..............

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7/21/2012 7:32 PM

RV, I hate to say it, but does a knee ever get back 100%?

Ask that other red headed dude nicknamed after a farm animal, how it worked out for him.

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7/22/2012 1:38 AM

Black Diesel Bomber wrote: I think a few Vital tards learned something today about blocking, one lined tracks that are difficult to pass on, and a champion who was being cautious about passing someone who will brake check you or push your kill switch button...

Hey bro, you can talk when your on the top step of the podium, till then talk to your little homeboys about what's on your mind.

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7/22/2012 4:22 AM

Black Diesel Bomber wrote: I think a few Vital tards learned something today about blocking, one lined tracks that are difficult to pass on, and a champion who was being cautious about passing someone who will brake check you or push your kill switch button...

Washougal is "One Lined"?

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7/22/2012 5:52 AM

ocscottie wrote: RV, I hate to say it, but does a knee ever get back 100%?

Ask that other red headed dude nicknamed after a farm animal, how it worked out for him.

Knee surgeries have come a looonnggg way in the last few years.. Just look take football players for example, used to mean a dude was done for good, nowadays they can come back nearly as strong as before, pretty incredible...

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7/22/2012 6:29 AM

Alessi was doing something shocking....racing. I really don't get it even after the explanation. I remember one race where I was putting my whole bike across the corner in every corner for the whole race to make sure that kid didn't get around me who was much faster than me and you know what? He never got around me and I'm damn proud of it.

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7/22/2012 6:45 AM

Mike rode hard, and did what he had to win a national... The only way he can.

Ryan rode smart and did what he thought best for the Championship.

Would Chad, RV or James have done the same thing? Who knows, and it really doesn't matter.

While I would have enjoyed Ryan getting around Mike any way possible, they both did what they had to do..

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7/22/2012 6:59 AM

Black Diesel Bomber wrote: I think a few Vital tards learned something today about blocking, one lined tracks that are difficult to pass on, and a champion who was being cautious about passing someone who will brake check you or push your kill switch button...

It would be so much better if they just let each guy run 30+2 alone on the track, then we could see who is truly the fastest. It's so annoying to watch the guys try to have to pass each other.

Also, since Alessi is already back 80 points in the series he should just give up. If he doesn't want to give up, then he should ride over his head to try to catch Dungey and not worry about crashing out of the series or ending his career.

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7/22/2012 7:28 AM

Black Diesel Bomber wrote: I think a few Vital tards learned something today about blocking, one lined tracks that are difficult to pass on, and a champion who was being cautious about passing someone who will brake check you or push your kill switch button...

Too funny you bitter POS. He lost a foking moto to a guy on inferior equipment...Who cares...Move on bud.

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7/22/2012 7:31 AM

Black Diesel Bomber wrote: I think a few Vital tards learned something today about blocking, one lined tracks that are difficult to pass on, and a champion who was being cautious about passing someone who will brake check you or push your kill switch button...

orangecrush wrote: Too funny you bitter POS. He lost a foking moto to a guy on inferior equipment...Who cares...Move on bud.

Take your own advice?

Go Dungey!

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7/22/2012 8:46 AM

Black Diesel Bomber wrote: I think a few Vital tards learned something today about blocking, one lined tracks that are difficult to pass on, and a champion who was being cautious about passing someone who will brake check you or push your kill switch button...

Jeff alessi wrote: Hey bro, you can talk when your on the top step of the podium, till then talk to your little homeboys about what's on your mind.

Jeff, I have a huge amount of respect for you and everyone out there. What you all can do on a motorcycle is amazing! And no offense, but he could say the same thing to you... This is a public forum, people discuss motocross. If only people that have won nationals are allowed to voice their opinions then it kind of defeats the purpose.

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7/22/2012 9:30 AM

I'm amazed how people are saying Dungey rode smart. The guy got flustered, crashed, and nearly kamikaze piloted his KTM into a crowed of spectators. All evidence indicates he was super pissed out there.

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7/22/2012 10:04 AM

Congrats to Alessi for his moment in the sun but we all saw in moto 2 whats really up. Will anyone care to expand on the story about MA pressing someones kill switch? I've not heard that one about Mikey.
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