Sure seems that way.
The 450 class is run first.
The ferocity, passing , heroics and drama is all about the 250 class.
What are we to make of all this ?
And, if we took the TOP TEN in 250 points and launched them, suddenly, and with little trepidation, boldly up a notch -
how would it affect both classes ? Viewership ? The sport, in general ?
Discuss amongst yourselves, in a civil fashion - and then nap.
Looks like that is the case to me......
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Been saying this for the last few seasons...
The 250 boys kill it! The racing has been better with them for quite a while.... Any weekend could have a different winner, and the racing is off the chart.
Interestingly enough, they pull lap times that are not too far off from the 450s. But yet very few of them are getting hurt out there.
I'm more excited to view this weekend's 250 motos than the 450's. More drive, more momentum necessary, more working the bike. I appreciate that.
Back in the day of three classes, wasn't the middle class of the 250cc two strokes considered the premier class, I know it was always that way in Australia.
Luckily it looks like Stewy is back this weekend, though how much more interesting would the year be if JS and Dungey were thrown back into the 250 class to mix it with the young guys, would leave us with a tight battle in both classes, well maybe, maybe Dunge and JS would run away from all the current 250 guys as well!
One class, the PREMIER class, run any bike you want, 2stroke, 4 stroke, twin, 175cc, 850cc, who cares! Whatever YOU can go the fastest on! THen have a support class where there is little airtime and you will have the best racing the best, with the support guys getting good experience against eachother. Do the same in sx.
Honestly, I think that the 250 class should be stock engine, besides exhaust and maybe cams/valves. Obviously, stock suspension would be a bit too dangerous for those guys. IMO, it's a win - win and would tighten the class up even more.
The only question would be if it sparks a development war between OEMs. I think it has the potential to help the racing, but hurt companies like PC. In the end, it does work for supersport classes in road racing.
I'm sure guys like Mitch Payton would disagree, but I didn't get the chance to ask him since Watson tells me to listen to the other show when I call PulpMX, then hangs up.
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For this season it is. If we have a healthy 450 field next year, it's gonna be epic.
If VIllopoto & Reed were out there the 450 class would be probably be just as exciting as the 250 class.
But...I've always kinda had the feeling that the majority of the 450 boys just feel resigned to the fact they can't match the big four; Stewart, Dungey, Villopoto & Reed. With the exception of maybe Alessi and Townley when he was in the US, the rest seem like they're beaten before they even take their place on the line. It must be hard to find the motivation when yourself when the best you can hope for is finishing just inside the top ten every week, year after year. You lose the hunger.
Thats why I think the Lites is often so exciting, because they all still feel they can win!
Jeff Emigs Keys to the Race:
1. Get a good start
2. Don't crash
250'f always look like theyre the faster, premier class because the front runners are close, but you throw those top 250f riders into the 450 class, the same people will continue to win, and for some reason this equates to a class that's not as good?
Yep might as well call it what it is, the premier class. There is no advancement rule so they don't have to leave the 250 class as well. Just throw in a 125 class and you would be back in the olden days. 125, 250 and open.
Dungey and Stewart need to move down to have some competition.
The 250 class is much more exciting and fun to watch then 450s, lots of passing and battles from front to back of the pack. I usually fast forward thru the 450s to watch the 250s.
Its like its 1994 again............
With less people getting injuries in the 250 class, it's obvious the 450 is too much power for sx, maybe sx should be 250's and 350's only and outdoors 250's , 350's and 450 classes. Obviously the women would be cut out on the outdoors but perhaps healthier riders for the most part.
Oh, by the way , happy birthday Rupert
Totally. The top 4 in the 250 class are more capable of winning in the 450 class than 38 of the guys currently on the 450 line. Not saying they'd beat them straight up, but put it this way, I don't think Roczen, Tomac, Bagget or Barcia would be 30 secs back on Dungey... Barcia has already proven he has the speed to run (and fuck with) Dungey. and Roczen beat him on a 250!