2016 KTM XC's

sdfog1 wrote:

Thanks for the info! Any idea on the two strokes? I'm assuming the 250 and 300 are going to stay the same since the 250 SX...

Thanks for the info! Any idea on the two strokes? I'm assuming the 250 and 300 are going to stay the same since the 250 SX didn't get the updates.

sdfog1 wrote:

Thanks for the info! Any idea on the two strokes? I'm assuming the 250 and 300 are going to stay the same since the 250 SX...

Thanks for the info! Any idea on the two strokes? I'm assuming the 250 and 300 are going to stay the same since the 250 SX didn't get the updates.

bigcat wrote:

Are you racing Torn this year? assuming we ever have a race.

TriRacer27 wrote:

Pffft, still not as light as this 4-stroke. Look how easily Scott is carrying it around. [img]https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6233/6315792034_fb0b8eb3e6_b.jpg[/img] Seriously though, remember the days when this was considered...

Pffft, still not as light as this 4-stroke. Look how easily Scott is carrying it around.




Seriously though, remember the days when this was considered a good off-road 4-stroke.

sdfog1 wrote:

Thanks for the info! Any idea on the two strokes? I'm assuming the 250 and 300 are going to stay the same since the 250 SX...

Thanks for the info! Any idea on the two strokes? I'm assuming the 250 and 300 are going to stay the same since the 250 SX didn't get the updates.

dcg141 wrote:

Yea the 250/300 are unchanged. There is a new engine on the way for 17.

sdfog1 wrote:

Thanks for the info! Any idea on the two strokes? I'm assuming the 250 and 300 are going to stay the same since the 250 SX...

Thanks for the info! Any idea on the two strokes? I'm assuming the 250 and 300 are going to stay the same since the 250 SX didn't get the updates.

dcg141 wrote:

Yea the 250/300 are unchanged. There is a new engine on the way for 17.

sdfog1 wrote:

Thanks for the info! Any idea on the two strokes? I'm assuming the 250 and 300 are going to stay the same since the 250 SX...

Thanks for the info! Any idea on the two strokes? I'm assuming the 250 and 300 are going to stay the same since the 250 SX didn't get the updates.

dcg141 wrote:

Yea the 250/300 are unchanged. There is a new engine on the way for 17.

Titan1 wrote:

That stinks...I had my eye on a 2016 300XC this year, thinking they were getting all the goodies as the four stokes. Now I have to...

That stinks...I had my eye on a 2016 300XC this year, thinking they were getting all the goodies as the four stokes.

Now I have to decide if I want to wait a year or just buy a 450 XC.

dcg141 wrote:

Yea the 250/300 are unchanged. There is a new engine on the way for 17.

Titan1 wrote:

That stinks...I had my eye on a 2016 300XC this year, thinking they were getting all the goodies as the four stokes. Now I have to...

That stinks...I had my eye on a 2016 300XC this year, thinking they were getting all the goodies as the four stokes.

Now I have to decide if I want to wait a year or just buy a 450 XC.

peelout wrote:

the 350XC would be a desert racing animal... wish i had the coin

dcg141 wrote:

We got the specs today for the cross counrty bikes and the XC line gets the new SX frames and engines. 223, 226 and 230 are...

We got the specs today for the cross counrty bikes and the XC line gets the new SX frames and engines. 223, 226 and 230 are the weights for the 250, 350 and 450. That makes the XC's as light or lighter than most MX bikes. At 226 that 350 is going to be a off road weapon. XC's have a bigger tank, 18 rear wheel and a sidestand. The 350 is a 6 speed vs the SX 5 speed.

Titan1 wrote:

For some reason I'm on the fence about the 350...maybe its my "the 350 can't win in the 450 class in America" that is clouding my...

For some reason I'm on the fence about the 350...maybe its my "the 350 can't win in the 450 class in America" that is clouding my thinking...but I just keep thinking for four extra pounds why not just get the 450?

I haven't ridden a 350 though, so maybe it feels like a 250 (weight wise) with the power closer to a 450?

I'm hoping by this fall I'll have set aside enough coin to drop $9K on a new bike...then it will come down to which one, and with so many choices it makes my brain hurts . BUT that is a FUN problem to have.

All the new bikes are so dang good though...I should probably just close my eyes, spin around 10 times, and which ever one I bump into first is the one I buy.

Titan1 wrote:

For some reason I'm on the fence about the 350...maybe its my "the 350 can't win in the 450 class in America" that is clouding my...

For some reason I'm on the fence about the 350...maybe its my "the 350 can't win in the 450 class in America" that is clouding my thinking...but I just keep thinking for four extra pounds why not just get the 450?

I haven't ridden a 350 though, so maybe it feels like a 250 (weight wise) with the power closer to a 450?

I'm hoping by this fall I'll have set aside enough coin to drop $9K on a new bike...then it will come down to which one, and with so many choices it makes my brain hurts . BUT that is a FUN problem to have.

All the new bikes are so dang good though...I should probably just close my eyes, spin around 10 times, and which ever one I bump into first is the one I buy.

Huevos wrote:

Honestly, the 450 is more power than 90% of people need while the 250 leaves something to be desired for some of the bigger guys. The...

Honestly, the 450 is more power than 90% of people need while the 250 leaves something to be desired for some of the bigger guys. The 350 is a 350. It's the happy medium for those that fall into that category. More power than a 250, but maybe not as much power as the 450 which decreases the chance of wrecking yourself.

Titan1 wrote:

For some reason I'm on the fence about the 350...maybe its my "the 350 can't win in the 450 class in America" that is clouding my...

For some reason I'm on the fence about the 350...maybe its my "the 350 can't win in the 450 class in America" that is clouding my thinking...but I just keep thinking for four extra pounds why not just get the 450?

I haven't ridden a 350 though, so maybe it feels like a 250 (weight wise) with the power closer to a 450?

I'm hoping by this fall I'll have set aside enough coin to drop $9K on a new bike...then it will come down to which one, and with so many choices it makes my brain hurts . BUT that is a FUN problem to have.

All the new bikes are so dang good though...I should probably just close my eyes, spin around 10 times, and which ever one I bump into first is the one I buy.

Huevos wrote:

Honestly, the 450 is more power than 90% of people need while the 250 leaves something to be desired for some of the bigger guys. The...

Honestly, the 450 is more power than 90% of people need while the 250 leaves something to be desired for some of the bigger guys. The 350 is a 350. It's the happy medium for those that fall into that category. More power than a 250, but maybe not as much power as the 450 which decreases the chance of wrecking yourself.

Titan1 wrote:

For some reason I'm on the fence about the 350...maybe its my "the 350 can't win in the 450 class in America" that is clouding my...

For some reason I'm on the fence about the 350...maybe its my "the 350 can't win in the 450 class in America" that is clouding my thinking...but I just keep thinking for four extra pounds why not just get the 450?

I haven't ridden a 350 though, so maybe it feels like a 250 (weight wise) with the power closer to a 450?

I'm hoping by this fall I'll have set aside enough coin to drop $9K on a new bike...then it will come down to which one, and with so many choices it makes my brain hurts . BUT that is a FUN problem to have.

All the new bikes are so dang good though...I should probably just close my eyes, spin around 10 times, and which ever one I bump into first is the one I buy.

Huevos wrote:

Honestly, the 450 is more power than 90% of people need while the 250 leaves something to be desired for some of the bigger guys. The...

Honestly, the 450 is more power than 90% of people need while the 250 leaves something to be desired for some of the bigger guys. The 350 is a 350. It's the happy medium for those that fall into that category. More power than a 250, but maybe not as much power as the 450 which decreases the chance of wrecking yourself.

Titan1 wrote:

I'm with you there on the 450's making more power than most of us will ever need...one advantage of a lot of power (more than people...

I'm with you there on the 450's making more power than most of us will ever need...one advantage of a lot of power (more than people need) is that it can make up for a lack of skill and endurance (which describes me to a T)...in certain situations...in that they can be ridden a little "lazier" and you can still go fast.

I'm on off road guy, so my perspective is a little bit different. There are a TON of two strokes in off road...and they make enough power for all but the most wide open races...I can blow by guys on 300cc two strokes and 250cc two and four strokes in the wide open stuff on my 450. So I really like all that power as it translates to acceleration and even top speed (without losing any bottom through gearing). I do give up some on the more technical sections of trail, though, from the added weight. But with the new KTM 450's so dang light (I think my YZ450 is mid to high 240's lbs...where apparently the new 450xc is 230 lbs) it seems that would eliminate some of that disadvantage. (there is obviously more moving parts in a four stroke motor than a two stroke motor so they still don't like to turn as good).

I've also been told I ride my 450 to much like a two stroke (I shift it to much)...so maybe I'd feel right at home on the 350? Which is also why I was looking at a 300 two stroke. (I've already blew enough money on a 250 four stroke, so I'll pass on one of those).

So much to take into consideration...and, since I don't have any experience on a 350 and only a tiny bit of experience on a 300, a whole lot of speculation and guessing and assuming.

peelout wrote:

for a fun bike to ride, race in the tight stuff, the 300. for an open bike hauling ass across the desert, i think the 350...

for a fun bike to ride, race in the tight stuff, the 300. for an open bike hauling ass across the desert, i think the 350 would be killer.

i'm in the "450 is just too much" group, i don't like riding them anymore.

Titan1 wrote:

I'd all but made up my mind on a 300, but you guys are making me second guess my decision, and sure make the 350 sound...

I'd all but made up my mind on a 300, but you guys are making me second guess my decision, and sure make the 350 sound Good.

Titan1 wrote:

I'd all but made up my mind on a 300, but you guys are making me second guess my decision, and sure make the 350 sound...

I'd all but made up my mind on a 300, but you guys are making me second guess my decision, and sure make the 350 sound Good.