2016 KTM 250sxf Dealer Quotes?

chasestevenson599
Edited Date/Time 10/9/2015 12:09pm
I know how this goes, every time it turns into a pissing match of unrealistic prices for new bikes, but here goes nothing.
I am looking at switching from Honda to a 2016 KTM 250sxf for supercross. I was just quoted $9400 OTD for a 2016 and I am very curious what others have paid for theirs. I do not plan to pay near this much since I can get a Honda easily for $3k less. I keep getting told there is a very limited availability of the 250's. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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I got a quote for just under $8,700 in TX. IMHO these new KTM's are going to sell for a premium and they have always been more expensive compared to Japanese bikes. Over a year you would pay $58 more a month. Skip a few happy meals and ur good. Always hard to stomach new bike prices. I haven't bought a new model year bike in years!
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mattyhamz2 10/2/2015 9:27am
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Saw a 16 kawi 450 yesterday for $9600 otd. No way I'd every pay that same price for a 250 lol.
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If you can get a Honda $3k less I'd go with that. The money saved will go a long way for racing expenses.
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jhansen510 10/2/2015 3:36pm
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Steadman wrote:
If you can get a Honda $3k less I'd go with that. The money saved will go a long way for racing expenses.
Or towards getting within a few horsepower of what that KTM is putting out stock....

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Idp57 10/2/2015 4:08pm
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I paid for my 2015 250 sxf fe back in May $9300 OTD....with taxes and everything !!!
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Idp57 wrote:
I paid for my 2015 250 sxf fe back in May $9300 OTD....with taxes and everything !!!
I paid $9200 otd for my 14 YZ450 in July 2013! That's crazy!
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Idp57 10/2/2015 4:45pm
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Idp57 wrote:
I paid for my 2015 250 sxf fe back in May $9300 OTD....with taxes and everything !!!
mattyhamz2 wrote:
I paid $9200 otd for my 14 YZ450 in July 2013! That's crazy!
It is what it is :-)
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Idp57 10/2/2015 4:49pm
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Btw 250 fe was $9300 not $8399 2016 250sxf
Downtown T. Brown 10/2/2015 5:03pm
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I can't see paying these prices. I got my 16 KTM 450SXF for $8800 OTD no fees no nothing. Which is still crazy btw. So how much do they want for a 450 $10,500? Maybe a silly ? but definitely not a bash......if your fast enough to attempt a supercross why won't a shop sell you a bike at cost?
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MSRP is 8399. I paid 8100 OTD for mine. I would think you can easily find a better deal than 9400 OTD.
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Downtown T. Brown wrote:
I can't see paying these prices. I got my 16 KTM 450SXF for $8800 OTD no fees no nothing. Which is still crazy btw. So how...
I can't see paying these prices. I got my 16 KTM 450SXF for $8800 OTD no fees no nothing. Which is still crazy btw. So how much do they want for a 450 $10,500? Maybe a silly ? but definitely not a bash......if your fast enough to attempt a supercross why won't a shop sell you a bike at cost?
Because the decision to sell a bike at cost and offer rider support goes beyond if someone's going to "attempt" to qualify for a supercross. There are a lot of people who attempt to qualify and don't even make the night show, never mind a main (not referring to the OP as I don't know him).

People who think speed is the biggest factor in sponsorship are short sighted. Ever wonder why some slow riders get good hook-ups? It's because they understand the two-way street of sponsorship and direct sales to who supports them enough to offset their deal.

Good luck negotiating a good price on your bike. But if you can get a Honda for $3,000 less, if price is your largest deciding factor...it's a simple decision.

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EcoSX478 10/2/2015 7:43pm
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Downtown T. Brown wrote:
I can't see paying these prices. I got my 16 KTM 450SXF for $8800 OTD no fees no nothing. Which is still crazy btw. So how...
I can't see paying these prices. I got my 16 KTM 450SXF for $8800 OTD no fees no nothing. Which is still crazy btw. So how much do they want for a 450 $10,500? Maybe a silly ? but definitely not a bash......if your fast enough to attempt a supercross why won't a shop sell you a bike at cost?
How did you get that 16 450 for so cheap? I paid almost a thousand more for mine.

And to the OP. There's for sure a shortage of 250 & 450 SX-F's in the US. According to people I've talked to its due to the uptick in worldwide demand from previous years.

I would go for the KTM for two reasons. One being that you'll get a bike that doesn't need too much done to it in the engine department to be competitive which in turn could translate to a more reliable bike. Secondly, the resale value of the 16 KTMs will likely be much higher than all other 250fs due to the shortage. You could sell it right before the 17s come out to purchase a 17 and not loose too much money. That's at least what I'll be doing seeing as my budget won't allow me two bikes. Instead I'll keep trading up each year in hopes of keeping a fresh/low hours bike under me.
Downtown T. Brown 10/3/2015 10:25pm
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Downtown T. Brown wrote:
I can't see paying these prices. I got my 16 KTM 450SXF for $8800 OTD no fees no nothing. Which is still crazy btw. So how...
I can't see paying these prices. I got my 16 KTM 450SXF for $8800 OTD no fees no nothing. Which is still crazy btw. So how much do they want for a 450 $10,500? Maybe a silly ? but definitely not a bash......if your fast enough to attempt a supercross why won't a shop sell you a bike at cost?
KTMShane699 wrote:
Because the decision to sell a bike at cost and offer rider support goes beyond if someone's going to "attempt" to qualify for a supercross. There...
Because the decision to sell a bike at cost and offer rider support goes beyond if someone's going to "attempt" to qualify for a supercross. There are a lot of people who attempt to qualify and don't even make the night show, never mind a main (not referring to the OP as I don't know him).

People who think speed is the biggest factor in sponsorship are short sighted. Ever wonder why some slow riders get good hook-ups? It's because they understand the two-way street of sponsorship and direct sales to who supports them enough to offset their deal.

Good luck negotiating a good price on your bike. But if you can get a Honda for $3,000 less, if price is your largest deciding factor...it's a simple decision.

Shane
I didn't make a comment to have a pissing match with a 3rd party. Yes there are some "squids" who get deals. If you are good enough to attempt a supercross your going to be a much better than avg local A rider. With that said if you have a decent attitude and are well spoken you should be able to find a local dealer to sell you a bike for $100 over. To me it comes down to the dealer who is going to work with you more than the brand.
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I am so glad i dont have to buy bikes anymore! 9kShocked
Downtown T. Brown 10/3/2015 10:46pm
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Downtown T. Brown wrote:
I can't see paying these prices. I got my 16 KTM 450SXF for $8800 OTD no fees no nothing. Which is still crazy btw. So how...
I can't see paying these prices. I got my 16 KTM 450SXF for $8800 OTD no fees no nothing. Which is still crazy btw. So how much do they want for a 450 $10,500? Maybe a silly ? but definitely not a bash......if your fast enough to attempt a supercross why won't a shop sell you a bike at cost?
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How did you get that 16 450 for so cheap? I paid almost a thousand more for mine. And to the OP. There's for sure a...
How did you get that 16 450 for so cheap? I paid almost a thousand more for mine.

And to the OP. There's for sure a shortage of 250 & 450 SX-F's in the US. According to people I've talked to its due to the uptick in worldwide demand from previous years.

I would go for the KTM for two reasons. One being that you'll get a bike that doesn't need too much done to it in the engine department to be competitive which in turn could translate to a more reliable bike. Secondly, the resale value of the 16 KTMs will likely be much higher than all other 250fs due to the shortage. You could sell it right before the 17s come out to purchase a 17 and not loose too much money. That's at least what I'll be doing seeing as my budget won't allow me two bikes. Instead I'll keep trading up each year in hopes of keeping a fresh/low hours bike under me.
Lucky I guess?? I shopped around a little. My closest KTM dealer wanted $9300 + $900 in fees hahahahaha!!!!! The dealer I bought from was 2 hours away and I had never even walked in the shop before. They posted an ad on craigslist and when I called the owner answered. I had a 5 minute conversation and bought the bike. When I went to pick it up he knocked off an additional $200. I will continue to support him as long as he is willing to deal a little. I understand the KTM's are on a premium this year but come on. How can someone charge $400 for assembly when the shop rate is $70 hr? $300 for a title fee when you bought out of state and they are only putting your name on an MCO? I work hard for my $, I dare say much harder than most. I'm not paying $400 for an 18 yr old kid to put my front wheel and handlebars on incorrectly.
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Downtown T. Brown wrote:
I can't see paying these prices. I got my 16 KTM 450SXF for $8800 OTD no fees no nothing. Which is still crazy btw. So how...
I can't see paying these prices. I got my 16 KTM 450SXF for $8800 OTD no fees no nothing. Which is still crazy btw. So how much do they want for a 450 $10,500? Maybe a silly ? but definitely not a bash......if your fast enough to attempt a supercross why won't a shop sell you a bike at cost?
KTMShane699 wrote:
Because the decision to sell a bike at cost and offer rider support goes beyond if someone's going to "attempt" to qualify for a supercross. There...
Because the decision to sell a bike at cost and offer rider support goes beyond if someone's going to "attempt" to qualify for a supercross. There are a lot of people who attempt to qualify and don't even make the night show, never mind a main (not referring to the OP as I don't know him).

People who think speed is the biggest factor in sponsorship are short sighted. Ever wonder why some slow riders get good hook-ups? It's because they understand the two-way street of sponsorship and direct sales to who supports them enough to offset their deal.

Good luck negotiating a good price on your bike. But if you can get a Honda for $3,000 less, if price is your largest deciding factor...it's a simple decision.

Shane
Downtown T. Brown wrote:
I didn't make a comment to have a pissing match with a 3rd party. Yes there are some "squids" who get deals. If you are good...
I didn't make a comment to have a pissing match with a 3rd party. Yes there are some "squids" who get deals. If you are good enough to attempt a supercross your going to be a much better than avg local A rider. With that said if you have a decent attitude and are well spoken you should be able to find a local dealer to sell you a bike for $100 over. To me it comes down to the dealer who is going to work with you more than the brand.
Sadly because a rider is trying to make it into supercross it doesn't mean he's fast at all. There are a few riders that somehow where able to get their pro license and try to race outdoors and supercross that are 2 seconds a lap slower than the local C riders. I don't understand how they even got their pro license in the first place.
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buy the Honda ...I just spoke to an expert level test rider that put some seat time on the 16 Honda...he said the motor improvements were HUGE and the legthened fork also made big improvements to the handling.....for 3k less im voting Honda!
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Its tough for a privateer guy to go with something so much more expensive when they have to foot the bill for their racing efforts.

But as others have said, it may need more work to get the HP close to the KTM.

Yamaha and KTM have the best 250f's but they do cost a bit more.

So you either spend on the bike with more HP or put some money into the Honda. Id go with the bike you can get the most support with parts from a dealer. That will help out a lot over the course of an entire season.

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Some of the comments here are quite funny. KTM having a better resale is one of them.

99.99% of the riders buying bikes today will be the same speed regardless of color, so if you can save money on a bike and find that OEM parts are cheaper, that should help anyone make a wise choice.

This world champ seems to ride pretty good and doesn't seem to have any HP issues against all the other colors. chasing him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNCoffvw0kQ



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IceMan446 10/4/2015 1:22pm
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keith101 wrote:
Some of the comments here are quite funny. KTM having a better resale is one of them. 99.99% of the riders buying bikes today will be...
Some of the comments here are quite funny. KTM having a better resale is one of them.

99.99% of the riders buying bikes today will be the same speed regardless of color, so if you can save money on a bike and find that OEM parts are cheaper, that should help anyone make a wise choice.

This world champ seems to ride pretty good and doesn't seem to have any HP issues against all the other colors. chasing him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNCoffvw0kQ



Not really fair to make that comparison.

He has motor work done for him.

The OP is a complete privateer.

But yes, I am with you on the part about getting OEM parts being the difference maker.
chasestevenson599 10/4/2015 6:02pm
10/4/2015 6:02pm Edited Date/Time 10/4/2015 6:06pm
Thanks for the responses! The question wasn't honda or ktm. Ive ridden the 16 KTM and the motor is stronger in stock trim than my current honda race bike with $3k in motor work. Being a privateer that is huge. I wouldn't have to do much to the ktm motor wise. Where as a honda I have a $6k bike and another $3k in motor work to make less power than the ktm does stock? I have heard there is a big shortage on the 2016 250sxf's, this was the only dealer I have found that could get one. I have also heard that the new Honda's are a lot faster so I haven't completely closed the door on that idea, especially since I have all the goodies (a kit, wheels, etc.) for the Honda already. I just really wanted to try something different and I really fell in love with the ktm. If I cant find a reasonably priced ktm within a couple weeks I guess Ill be on a Honda still! It's not like I'm asking for free bikes, I was just shocked when the price was $1,000 over msrp.
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you'll are a bunch of babbling idiots. only of few of you actually answered the question..........
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you'll are a bunch of babbling idiots. only of few of you actually answered the question..........
...... and you just joined the queue. Well done, welcome. Now STFU!
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I JUST sold my 2015 ktm 450 last night. I can tell you first hand current market experience that the second hand KTM market is no better than jap bikes.
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mx965 wrote:
I JUST sold my 2015 ktm 450 last night. I can tell you first hand current market experience that the second hand KTM market is no...
I JUST sold my 2015 ktm 450 last night. I can tell you first hand current market experience that the second hand KTM market is no better than jap bikes.
having a hard time selling mine as well...
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mx965 wrote:
I JUST sold my 2015 ktm 450 last night. I can tell you first hand current market experience that the second hand KTM market is no...
I JUST sold my 2015 ktm 450 last night. I can tell you first hand current market experience that the second hand KTM market is no better than jap bikes.
Please try to read what others have posted before replying. In my previous comment I stated that I would believe the 2016 250 & 450 SX-Fs might hold a better resale value due to the U.S. shortage of those models.

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chasestevenson599 wrote:
I know how this goes, every time it turns into a pissing match of unrealistic prices for new bikes, but here goes nothing. I am looking...
I know how this goes, every time it turns into a pissing match of unrealistic prices for new bikes, but here goes nothing.
I am looking at switching from Honda to a 2016 KTM 250sxf for supercross. I was just quoted $9400 OTD for a 2016 and I am very curious what others have paid for theirs. I do not plan to pay near this much since I can get a Honda easily for $3k less. I keep getting told there is a very limited availability of the 250's. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
you should buy the husky but also switch from supercross to arenacross and go make 10-15k in contigency
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I was quoted yesterday at my local on a 16 yz250f, $8063.37 out the door. According to the sales manager that was a sweet deal with discounts they dont give to just anybody...

They have a few 250sx-f's as well, and a 250 FE on the floor. I believe the FE is a 15 model though.
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KTMShane699 wrote:
Because the decision to sell a bike at cost and offer rider support goes beyond if someone's going to "attempt" to qualify for a supercross. There...
Because the decision to sell a bike at cost and offer rider support goes beyond if someone's going to "attempt" to qualify for a supercross. There are a lot of people who attempt to qualify and don't even make the night show, never mind a main (not referring to the OP as I don't know him).

People who think speed is the biggest factor in sponsorship are short sighted. Ever wonder why some slow riders get good hook-ups? It's because they understand the two-way street of sponsorship and direct sales to who supports them enough to offset their deal.

Good luck negotiating a good price on your bike. But if you can get a Honda for $3,000 less, if price is your largest deciding factor...it's a simple decision.

Shane
You once again hit the nail on the head. I got 16 450 for cost, and help out the company that sold it to me by selling parts on Saturdays (my only free day they are open) and sell bikes for them when I can. I have a long history in the local community and offer a lot more to the table than the $850 they could make on me selling it for retail and me keeping my mouth shut with no promotions.

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