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6/25/2013 9:25am
Talking to someone in the know (factory related) this weekend and it was revealed that Yamaha is paying attention to the offroad community and the continued and growing success of the YZ250. There was a strong "inference" that there will be a new 2-Stroke coming out of Japan for 2015. Offroad only? YZ300 or maybe WR300? YZ250DI? No details yet....
The numbers in offroad support the 2-Stroke and why Yamaha still offers them. Here is the tale of the tape in the offroad world according to the VCHSS stats keepers:
Other: Husaberg, Beta, TM and BMW. Again, those that are offering 2-Strokes are seeing their numbers grow...
The numbers in offroad support the 2-Stroke and why Yamaha still offers them. Here is the tale of the tape in the offroad world according to the VCHSS stats keepers:
Other: Husaberg, Beta, TM and BMW. Again, those that are offering 2-Strokes are seeing their numbers grow...
Good numbers, the offroad world is definitely well lubricated with premix.
The Shop
If you're racing the Vet class, 450 class, Open class or anything off-road it's a great bike. The 450F is still a slight advantage, but they don't yard me on the start like a stock YZ250.
yz 360
Establish: 1984
Average Rider Turnout Per Round: 425+ (Bikes only)
Rounds: 15
This is just some information from one locality from our place on earth. The information was for your intrpretation only. Figured someone out there would find this interesting...there is a need for 2-Strokes and those that are producing them are selling thim on the east coast of the USA.
Is this graph illustrating units sold or what the current people in your club are riding? Must be alot of dudes hammering around the woods on RMXs! Wouldn't surprise me actually, those things were beasts.
Second chart is 2-Stroke vs. 4-Stroke regardless of brand.
Pit Row
FUNCHAL (Portugal), 25 June 2013 - After a meeting between manufacturers and FIM, Youthstream and FIM Europe are glad to announce the start of a new European 300cc 2 stroke Championship next season. All the parties agreed that this series is likely to have a great success and it will be the base to take part in the FIM Motocross World Championship.
The market demand of the 2 stroke for Motocross is increasing rapidly. Youthstream plans to hold between 6 to 7 races together with the MXGP (like it is already done for the 125cc and 250cc). The suggested capacity for the technical rules is going to be from 200cc to 300cc 2 stroke.
Youthstream and FIM Europe believe a large number of riders is going to participate in this Championship, especially taking into account that the FIM MX3 World Championship will stop in 2014 and for sure there will be many riders willing to enter the new European 300cc 2 stroke series.
A Japanese built 300cc 2T would probably be the bike that would convince me to buy new again.
"Get over it, it isn't coming back"
Efficient - No
I love my 300, but my bros 450 is easier to ride!
If KTM did that the others better come out swinging from the start with their version or get left way behind.
Consumers want lots of things. They want bitchen bikes. They want them to be cheap to buy and maintain. They want them to be fun.
I've said many times that given the current set of rules, two-strokes in the pro class make zero sense. I still feel that way. The guys that try it aren't thinking of podiums. Or top tens. They're hoping to make the show, and that's about it. That's not racing, that's (barely) participating. For amateurs, it's a different story.
If two-strokes and four-strokes are going to play together in the pro class, there needs to be class modification. That has to be supported at the manufacturer level, and the powers that be at MX Sports AND the FIM. There was nothing new in the latest batch of class clarifications from the FIM, which means the answer (for now) is pretty much the same as it has been for the last several years. I did, however, think the line about continuing discussions with the manufacturers about two-strokes was interesting.
I think there could (and should) be a way to fix the classes and have dissimilar engine types race together competitively. Sports car racing figured it out. So did drag racing. MX should be able to do the same. Going up to 450cc for four-strokes (in what was then the 250 class) made sense when the rules were first constructed. Now? Maybe not so much.
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