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2014 honda rumor

tomcat

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10/1/2011 5:36 PM

fuel injected CR 250 in europe for 2013 and hittin the states in 2014 , heard it from a solid source (i think)

kiwifan

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10/1/2011 5:38 PM
Edited Date/Time: 10/1/2011 5:38 PM

tomcat wrote: fuel injected CR 250 in europe for 2013 and hittin the states in 2014 , heard it from a solid source (i think)

wouldnt surprise me in the least...bet you it will be electric start too

Racer111

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10/1/2011 5:39 PM

Wouldn't surprise me. I think the economy and 4 stroke costs are finally hitting home with the Big 4! Or hitting Japan that is.

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10/1/2011 5:44 PM

doubt it. about as likely as them hiring mike larocco to race it.

mx510

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10/1/2011 5:52 PM

Would be cool but we shall see.

Go Hawks!

steve_97060

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10/1/2011 6:02 PM

probably a true rumor, because it would make much more sense to keep something like that a secret as opposed to letting everyone know about and build excitement and anticipation of it...

TX24

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10/1/2011 6:40 PM

and it will cost about $800 less then a 450.

stangkag

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10/1/2011 7:43 PM

Read today the ktm 250sx is $2,000 cheaper than there 450sxf...hope bonds has similiar savings. I've been on four strokes since 2005... got to admit im ready to make a big ol 5 gal tank of premix and ride till its ALL gone

It aint nothing but a little bit of this and a little bit of Braaaap!!!

DownSouth

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10/1/2011 7:53 PM
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What will everyone say when this magical efi 2 stroke weighs 235 lbs due to the battery and electronics and has a price tag of $8400?

jasonv43

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10/1/2011 8:04 PM

DownSouth wrote: What will everyone say when this magical efi 2 stroke weighs 235 lbs due to the battery and electronics and has a price tag of $8400?

Yeah but Braaap sounds so much better then Blaaaaah.

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10/1/2011 8:09 PM

DownSouth wrote: What will everyone say when this magical efi 2 stroke weighs 235 lbs due to the battery and electronics and has a price tag of $8400?

if you think that a freshly developed two stroke will weigh 235lbs regardless of EFI, i want a big bag of whatever you are on.

i'll bet it weighs 210 tops. the 150sx KTM weighs 199lbs if im not mistaken.

500guy

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10/1/2011 8:12 PM
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I doubt this happens, I don't think they can even sell them in California ( CARB ) and that is where the majority of them get shipped.

queen of spodes

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10/1/2011 8:25 PM

500guy this topic is complete bs. It will never happen.

JB 19

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10/1/2011 9:08 PM

I'll believe it when I see it.......but if it did happen look for a rule change.......because Honda usually writes the rules in motorcycle racing.

MOTODAD422

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10/1/2011 9:23 PM

And i bet it will have those exotic dinklehopher pneumatic handlebar bearings.

Brent

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10/1/2011 9:59 PM

Honda has stated that it will not produce any more two-stroke engines for any vehicle, period.

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10/1/2011 10:00 PM

500guy wrote: I doubt this happens, I don't think they can even sell them in California ( CARB ) and that is where the majority of them get shipped.

legal for closed course competition only

ford832

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10/2/2011 5:22 AM

Never happen.Honda calls themselves a fourstroke company for every product they make.To do an about face would be like admitting you were wrong-and you know how often Honda does that.

smeg

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10/2/2011 5:37 AM

500guy wrote: I doubt this happens, I don't think they can even sell them in California ( CARB ) and that is where the majority of them get shipped.

A fuel infected two stroke will have LOWER emissions than a four stroke.

motogrady

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10/2/2011 5:46 AM

who knows, now that the old guy is dead honda might see the light.


If ktm really starts to kick their ass with 2s sales, or the cheater rule is rescinded, game over.

ODB

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10/2/2011 5:47 AM

500guy wrote: I doubt this happens, I don't think they can even sell them in California ( CARB ) and that is where the majority of them get shipped.

fuely two smokes have lower emissions than a 4 stroke ....moot point here

ODB

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10/2/2011 5:48 AM

Brent wrote: Honda has stated that it will not produce any more two-stroke engines for any vehicle, period.

yeah this was before .............there on the brink of motorcycle bankruptcy ....its simple if you don't produce something the public wants you don't sell

JLong

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10/2/2011 6:19 AM

DownSouth wrote: What will everyone say when this magical efi 2 stroke weighs 235 lbs due to the battery and electronics and has a price tag of $8400?

^^^^^ but a smoker would "save racing" and "possibly the world".

Xavier

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10/2/2011 6:41 AM

ford832 wrote: Never happen.Honda calls themselves a fourstroke company for every product they make.To do an about face would be like admitting you were wrong-and you know how often Honda does that.

Didn't they do it when they introduced the Elsinore ?

Long time ago, though (but Soïchiro was still alive and well, then)...

ATKpilot99

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10/2/2011 6:57 AM

I think we'll eventually se a FI or DI 2 stroke dirt bike but I wouldn't expect Honda to lead the charge. More likely KTM or KTM using Husaberg as a test bed imo.

aFACEdismembered

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10/2/2011 8:46 AM

Brent wrote: Honda has stated that it will not produce any more two-stroke engines for any vehicle, period.

Yea... how do they go from "we're pulling out of racing if you allow 2 strokes" to "Lets make 2 strokes!"?

If they do end up making one I won't buy it based on that fact alone. A bunch of hypocrites.

Lightning78

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10/2/2011 9:09 AM

Premixed wrote: doubt it. about as likely as them hiring mike larocco to race it.

Heard the same thing about the blue boys too ...... Just you wait ......

Robgvx

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10/2/2011 9:39 AM

I'm hearing rumours, from more than one place, of Honda having something special in GPs next year.

Tater

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10/2/2011 9:59 AM

Brent wrote: Honda has stated that it will not produce any more two-stroke engines for any vehicle, period.

That's what makes me think it's a slim chance but maybe they could justify it if they would use some of the super efficient/clean technology they swept under the rug when they dropped all their two-stroke development.

WORCSRacer

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10/2/2011 11:08 AM

Its already being tested... Part of the reason the RC valved motors had "issues" was they were designed with traction control and with FI in the future. Problem was the CPU needed to complete the project just hadn't been perfected and wasn't cost effective. Then...

How quickly people forget it was Honda that was leading the charge to clean two stroke technology back in the nineties. Vision and directions change as technology develops. Honda as a company has always believed that. They aren't too proud to admit they were wrong.
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