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1/27/2012 2:35pm
I thought I would copy/paste this from the Willy Musgrave post. Maybe it will help a little from a factual race view.
I have not read the article by Willy but here are a few facts of interest:
I work with 2 stroke rider (he has been fighting the 4 stroke change) who has been working towards his AMA National license.
In the pro-ams he can ride the 250 2 stroke in the 250f class and the open class (both are points races, 250f on Saturdays/Open on Sundays) these are Loretta Lynn qualifiers also.
He went 3rd overall in the 250F (crashed moto one, last to 10th, 1st moto 2) 2nd overall in the open class. track was muddy in Arizona.
He went 4th overall in the 250F (won first moto, got taken out second worked to 9th). In the 450 open main (44 riders) he placed 3rd. Comp Edge track, the conditions were excellent all day long, choppy/rough but not overly dry.
Now, if you put the 2 stroke on a dry Glen Helen track, when it is beat, the 4 stroke will pull the 2 stroke all day long just from the addtional traction and less wheel spin.
Put them on a tacky track and the 2 stroke will do ok, and yes even on the starts (if you know how to start).
From a race standpoint with conditions that are favorable the 2 stroke and 4 stroke can be brothers.
From a cost standpoint it is the 2 stroke hands down.
From a ease of riding standpoint, you must be very precise and not make mistakes with the 2 stroke, the 4 stroke is very forgiving in this area.
Now for reality, this rider will not be able to secure a ride without changing to 4 strokes and showing that he can do the same or better on the machines the teams are using.
Yes, he is breaking his new 250Fs in today.
I have not read the article by Willy but here are a few facts of interest:
I work with 2 stroke rider (he has been fighting the 4 stroke change) who has been working towards his AMA National license.
In the pro-ams he can ride the 250 2 stroke in the 250f class and the open class (both are points races, 250f on Saturdays/Open on Sundays) these are Loretta Lynn qualifiers also.
He went 3rd overall in the 250F (crashed moto one, last to 10th, 1st moto 2) 2nd overall in the open class. track was muddy in Arizona.
He went 4th overall in the 250F (won first moto, got taken out second worked to 9th). In the 450 open main (44 riders) he placed 3rd. Comp Edge track, the conditions were excellent all day long, choppy/rough but not overly dry.
Now, if you put the 2 stroke on a dry Glen Helen track, when it is beat, the 4 stroke will pull the 2 stroke all day long just from the addtional traction and less wheel spin.
Put them on a tacky track and the 2 stroke will do ok, and yes even on the starts (if you know how to start).
From a race standpoint with conditions that are favorable the 2 stroke and 4 stroke can be brothers.
From a cost standpoint it is the 2 stroke hands down.
From a ease of riding standpoint, you must be very precise and not make mistakes with the 2 stroke, the 4 stroke is very forgiving in this area.
Now for reality, this rider will not be able to secure a ride without changing to 4 strokes and showing that he can do the same or better on the machines the teams are using.
Yes, he is breaking his new 250Fs in today.
You misinterpreted this post a little. Not a complaint, realty as it is today.
The Shop
it is interesting how individuals interpret posts, it never ceases to amaze me.
This was not about the costs in reality, just that a rider can ride a 2 stroke throughout his amateur career but (at this time) will need to prove himself on the 4 stroke if he ever hopes to move forward.
not a secret but I didn't want this to be about the athlete, I wanted it to be about facts on the 2 stroke/4 stroke comparison in an actual racing event.
psssst...I heard a rumor that we jus' might have some sort of 125/150 Invitational Race.
Shhhhhh!
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