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And you masterminds wonder why the mcf's laugh at the two stroke crowd. KTM knows something or they would bail on them yesturday. Maybe they just love the sport and are waiting for people to wake up before its too late.
The Shop
I'm not a 4stroke hater. I used to ride 250F's when I raced, but it's no secret that the displacement advantage given to 4strokes is what has killed the 2stroke. Sure the direct cause is lack of market these days, but that's a direct result of the displacement rules that were set up.
Also just to add to that. When the new 2strokes being produced are essentially the same as they have been for the last 5 years, it makes sense that people will opt to buy used. You can buy a new one for 7G's or you can buy a used one for 3 grand, put 2 grand into it, save 2 grand and have a better bike than the new one.
Jimmy Mac at chicken licks speedway wants to race lites C-B-A, and to be competitive, he's got to go it on a 250F.
He doesn't want to be lined up with 4-6 booger pickers in "the 2 stroke class"
Please show me where Yamaha says they're making a killing off of the two stroke motors.
Yamabucks pays out contingency to how many riders per season, vs. how many new bikes,etc?
I know guys that own 450s, ride and race quite often, and go seasons with out ever pulling the head off of the bike. I hear the horror stories, but my personal experience has been that the four strokes were much less trouble than the two strokes.
Of coarse that isn't going to be the case when talking about a tapped out 250f.
Pit Row
I see more KTM's these days in the forest or on trailers/pick ups sporting chambers than without.
MX SPORTS - Allow the 250 two strokes to compete in the lites class and give us moto fans something to cheer for, and continue to progress our great sport forward. There is the worldwide results proving that the 250 two stroke does not have an unfair advantage over the 250F's these days.
Locally, we are all seeing the effects of the expensive rebuilds of 4 strokes.
People are snatching up hotcakes like they're two-strokes.
Its evident.
The winds of change have changed course and the tangy odor of mixed gases
are blowing back in our faces,,,,
Rejoice.
Grassroots is motocross and the roots are growing fast.
BTW: A good number of parts in both engines are universal, are not specifically made for just for one purpose.
They keep the supply down, so the demand and price is ridiculous.
I"ve have two friends that are Yami dealers, they can get a handful of yz250's each year for 6800ish. Which puts them close to 7 for everyone. Keep in mind this is a bike that hasn't changed in 5 years. You can drop another grand and get a 10-11 450.
Now do a dealer search on ebay for yzf's. 09 big and little models all day for 4700.
No way they are making a comeback with leftovers going for that. People here think picking up a beater off craigslist is going to going to save the world; that does jack shit for an oem.
The R&D dollars blown on those new 450's are being recovered by the 0 R&D on the 06 yz models, with the 2011 price tag on them.
This is coming from a guy that has never owned a valve bike, but will when my cr gets to ragged.
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