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10/21/2011 7:12 AM

2012 CRF250R chassis- with a new 1999 CR 125 engine..

thought you guys might find it interesting ..

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10/21/2011 7:15 AM

Mean machine, If they didn't charge sooooo much.

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10/21/2011 7:15 AM

So are you going to be producing these then?? Price ??

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10/21/2011 7:21 AM

Ok I say you should make 20 of these for the best B riders in the states to ride at the east and west rounds. Make the 250f class run the whole SX season and have these as the up and comers way to show there stuff!

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10/21/2011 7:25 AM

X2, That's actually a good idea!

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10/21/2011 7:30 AM

Just curious, why a 1999 engine?

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10/21/2011 7:30 AM

NeWskoolmxer wrote:

Mean machine, If they didn't charge sooooo much.

thanks,

We havn't set retail for it. its just a fun project at the moment.

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10/21/2011 7:33 AM

adamdf wrote:

Just curious, why a 1999 engine?

In the CR 125 engine line, I always liked the 1996 thru 1999 power best.
Most tuners agree.
So if i'm building the engine from new parts anyway, why not start with the engine, that later year CR 125's were trying to replicate?

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10/21/2011 7:34 AM

NeWskoolmxer wrote:

Mean machine, If they didn't charge sooooo much.

AJ wrote:

thanks,

We havn't set retail for it. its just a fun project at the moment.

That's what I had figured, Looks like a fun bike. Then again I don't know all the work that goes on to make an AF so retail might be worth it.

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10/21/2011 7:41 AM

NeWskoolmxer wrote:

Mean machine, If they didn't charge sooooo much.

AJ wrote:

thanks,

We havn't set retail for it. its just a fun project at the moment.

NeWskoolmxer wrote:

That's what I had figured, Looks like a fun bike. Then again I don't know all the work that goes on to make an AF so retail might be worth it.

well, the cost is driven by assembling any new 2 stroke engine from scratch /from new parts.
add in a new bikes cost.. and the other parts to convert.


The real news is we are looking into FI for this model
it has a carb currently, but the FI option should be soon.

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10/21/2011 7:44 AM

AJ wrote:

well, the cost is driven by assembling any new 2 stroke engine from scratch /from new parts.
add in a new bikes cost.. and the other parts to convert.


The real news is we are looking into FI for this model
it has a carb currently, but the FI option should be soon.

I see, An FI 125 in a modern 250f frame! That's gonna be a bad ass bike. What sort of FI are you using a kit or adapting one from another bike?

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10/21/2011 7:51 AM

very nice.

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10/21/2011 8:19 AM

COOL!

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10/21/2011 8:27 AM

Much respect for Service Honda!!!



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10/21/2011 8:33 AM

How much does it weigh?

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10/21/2011 8:50 AM

Very nice, like FTE asked what is the weight? Have you guys done any conversions into a Suzuki AF with the 500 or 250 two stroke motors?

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10/21/2011 9:03 AM
Edited Date/Time: 10/21/2011 9:04 AM

AJ wrote:

In the CR 125 engine line, I always liked the 1996 thru 1999 power best.
Most tuners agree.
So if i'm building the engine from new parts anyway, why not start with the engine, that later year CR 125's were trying to replicate?

I know Tallon Vohland used a 95 cylinder on his FMF CR when he raced the series 99? 00?

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10/21/2011 10:25 AM

I really respect you for doing this....especially with FI. I can't wait to see the final product.

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10/21/2011 10:29 AM

Bad ass!

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10/21/2011 10:33 AM

AJ wrote:

well, the cost is driven by assembling any new 2 stroke engine from scratch /from new parts.
add in a new bikes cost.. and the other parts to convert.


The real news is we are looking into FI for this model
it has a carb currently, but the FI option should be soon.

Why would you not use the engine Honda sells to kart racers? Is there something different about the configuration?



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10/21/2011 10:38 AM

Great job Service Honda! Using the mid 90's motor is a smart move. Now put a $5,000 price tag on them.......you couldn't make them fast enough!!

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10/21/2011 10:48 AM

I want one!What are the chances that you will actually make this bike available?

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10/21/2011 10:48 AM

burn1986 wrote:

I know Tallon Vohland used a 95 cylinder on his FMF CR when he raced the series 99? 00?

Everyone and their brother who ran Hondas in the 90s did that. I know we did.

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10/21/2011 10:53 AM

FreshTopEnd wrote:

How much does it weigh?

i think it's 207 soaking wet, ready to moto.

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10/21/2011 10:56 AM

NeWskoolmxer wrote:

That's what I had figured, Looks like a fun bike. Then again I don't know all the work that goes on to make an AF so retail might be worth it.

AJ wrote:

well, the cost is driven by assembling any new 2 stroke engine from scratch /from new parts.
add in a new bikes cost.. and the other parts to convert.


The real news is we are looking into FI for this model
it has a carb currently, but the FI option should be soon.

Rooster wrote:

Why would you not use the engine Honda sells to kart racers? Is there something different about the configuration?

the cart racers prefer the same engine the moto guys do, so thats a yes and no answer..



yes- its the same Honda 125 engine.

no - its not the exact same *kit engine*, as the cart engines dont have they clutch assembly..and other engine parts valuable to a dirt bike application

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10/21/2011 10:57 AM

luma51 wrote:

I want one!What are the chances that you will actually make this bike available?

it will happen, i just dont have the exact release date..

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10/21/2011 11:05 AM

Yeah AJ, totally nice bike!

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10/21/2011 11:06 AM

Aren't your CR5's fuel injected? Or am I thinking of the non-stock ignition?

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10/21/2011 11:43 AM

Think there will be a market for all those 250F motors that you pull out of those frames?

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10/21/2011 12:00 PM

luma51 wrote:

I want one!What are the chances that you will actually make this bike available?

AJ wrote:

it will happen, i just dont have the exact release date..

looks like you have one.