Whats better? alive reflex or untamed?

People almost universally hated Untamed but I will say this for it - the AI is pretty damn strong and I enjoyed many of the SX track layouts. Unfortunately the controls could be extremely frustrating at times. Plus there is no track deformation.

Everyone will slam Alive off but to be fair it does a lot of things well. Truth is it was scuppered by abominable dlc handling in almost every way imaginable. If however you pick it up "extremely" cheap and just treat it as stand alone experience, there is fun to be had for your virtual MX fix. Some of the Outdoor layouts are awesome.

Reflex isn't perfect but it has by far and away the best physics and overall game play of the bunch. My choice.

1.Reflex (still play it because it is awesome)
2.mx vs. atv unleashed (awesome supercross tracks)
3.Untamed for the ps2 (great outdoor tracks)
4.Alive (bad decision to buy)

Alive, Reflex, Untamed - In that order for me. Untamed was the worst game ever, if I were to opine. Alive was great, just not enough substance, and Reflex was pretty darn good too, just too hard to race without damn near exploding.

Also, I get the feeling your original post was possibly sarcastic, and we all took it as a serious inquiry.

Motocross83 wrote: People almost universally hated Untamed but I will say this for it - the AI is pretty damn strong and I enjoyed many of the SX track layouts. Unfortunately the controls could be extremely frustrating at times. Plus there is no track deformation.

Everyone will slam Alive off but to be fair it does a lot of things well. Truth is it was scuppered by abominable dlc handling in almost every way imaginable. If however you pick it up "extremely" cheap and just treat it as stand alone experience, there is fun to be had for your virtual MX fix. Some of the Outdoor layouts are awesome.

Reflex isn't perfect but it has by far and away the best physics and overall game play of the bunch. My choice.

I reckon untamed had the biggest and best campain cause it wasnt all about online!

JW381 wrote: Also, I get the feeling your original post was possibly sarcastic, and we all took it as a serious inquiry.

Confused :/

keeptwostrokesalive wrote: 1.Reflex (still play it because it is awesome)
2.mx vs. atv unleashed (awesome supercross tracks)
3.Untamed for the ps2 (great outdoor tracks)
4.Alive (bad decision to buy)

Same here

JW381 wrote: Alive, Reflex, Untamed - In that order for me. Untamed was the worst game ever, if I were to opine. Alive was great, just not enough substance, and Reflex was pretty darn good too, just too hard to race without damn near exploding.

You got all wrong with untamed

I like Reflex, purely because there are some decent Supercross tracks. Alive got old quick, and i soon realised it was no good. I liked Untamed, especially Endurocross, it was really good at the time, but now the controls are too dated, as is the terrain deformation.

JW381 wrote: Alive, Reflex, Untamed - In that order for me. Untamed was the worst game ever, if I were to opine. Alive was great, just not enough substance, and Reflex was pretty darn good too, just too hard to race without damn near exploding.

Jeremy_Scott wrote: You got all wrong with untamed

I think you got it all wrong. The sound was terrible, the graphics were terrible, the gameplay was terrible, the career mode was a joke. The tracks were ok, and the little replays were nice, something I think all the games need. That's it.

I really don't see why everyone slammed the Alive gameplay. Obviously the DLC was a disaster and there was no career play but the actual racing was a TON better than Reflex. If anyone tapped your handlebars on Reflex you flipped sideways and crashed and that wasn't a problem in Alive. The physics were overall better in Alive, in Reflex I felt like I was taking the corners riding on ice. Anyway 1. MVA Unleashed 2. Alive 3. Reflex

Phillips467 wrote: I like Reflex, purely because there are some decent Supercross tracks. Alive got old quick, and i soon realised it was no good. I liked Untamed, especially Endurocross, it was really good at the time, but now the controls are too dated, as is the terrain deformation.

hope the next mx vs atv is better

NateDawg122 wrote: I really don't see why everyone slammed the Alive gameplay. Obviously the DLC was a disaster and there was no career play but the actual racing was a TON better than Reflex. If anyone tapped your handlebars on Reflex you flipped sideways and crashed and that wasn't a problem in Alive. The physics were overall better in Alive, in Reflex I felt like I was taking the corners riding on ice. Anyway 1. MVA Unleashed 2. Alive 3. Reflex

yeah but overall they both have there bad and good things (alive and reflex

Phillips467 wrote: I like Reflex, purely because there are some decent Supercross tracks. Alive got old quick, and i soon realised it was no good. I liked Untamed, especially Endurocross, it was really good at the time, but now the controls are too dated, as is the terrain deformation.

Jeremy_Scott wrote: hope the next mx vs atv is better

Never going to happen.

Yea the mx vs atv franchise is done and I mean they are seriously shut down. And Jeremy you never really hear about bad things in the good Ol MVA Unleashed do you, haha. Don't know why they couldn't keep those kind of tracks and racing styles and just add in track deformation, rider reflex, and better graphics.

Reflex and Alive are close in terms of gameplay (for me). i think Alive ALMOST had everything a moto game should... except more tracks, supercross, and a career mode. also it's pretty sad that the DLC thing went to shit, i was really counting on being able to download tracks and SX.

Untamed was a lot of fun for me for a lot longer than Reflex or Alive though. i played it a lot for a long time, but it wasn't without it's issues either.

Unleashed (both of them) were hands down the best moto games though, had it all. if only they had come out about 8 years later and had good online modes... that would be epic

NateDawg122 wrote: I really don't see why everyone slammed the Alive gameplay. Obviously the DLC was a disaster and there was no career play but the actual racing was a TON better than Reflex. If anyone tapped your handlebars on Reflex you flipped sideways and crashed and that wasn't a problem in Alive. The physics were overall better in Alive, in Reflex I felt like I was taking the corners riding on ice. Anyway 1. MVA Unleashed 2. Alive 3. Reflex

My thoughts exactly. As far as the actual riding side went, Alive was pretty damn good overall.

Phillips467 wrote: I like Reflex, purely because there are some decent Supercross tracks. Alive got old quick, and i soon realised it was no good. I liked Untamed, especially Endurocross, it was really good at the time, but now the controls are too dated, as is the terrain deformation.

Jeremy_Scott wrote: hope the next mx vs atv is better

T-Fish wrote: Never going to happen.

Anything is better than Alive

NateDawg122 wrote: Yea the mx vs atv franchise is done and I mean they are seriously shut down. And Jeremy you never really hear about bad things in the good Ol MVA Unleashed do you, haha. Don't know why they couldn't keep those kind of tracks and racing styles and just add in track deformation, rider reflex, and better graphics.

The tracks in untamed were heaps better and there were more of them, same with the cars/bikes

NateDawg122 wrote: I really don't see why everyone slammed the Alive gameplay. Obviously the DLC was a disaster and there was no career play but the actual racing was a TON better than Reflex. If anyone tapped your handlebars on Reflex you flipped sideways and crashed and that wasn't a problem in Alive. The physics were overall better in Alive, in Reflex I felt like I was taking the corners riding on ice. Anyway 1. MVA Unleashed 2. Alive 3. Reflex

JW381 wrote: My thoughts exactly. As far as the actual riding side went, Alive was pretty damn good overall.

true

peelout wrote: Reflex and Alive are close in terms of gameplay (for me). i think Alive ALMOST had everything a moto game should... except more tracks, supercross, and a career mode. also it's pretty sad that the DLC thing went to shit, i was really counting on being able to download tracks and SX.

Untamed was a lot of fun for me for a lot longer than Reflex or Alive though. i played it a lot for a long time, but it wasn't without it's issues either.

Unleashed (both of them) were hands down the best moto games though, had it all. if only they had come out about 8 years later and had good online modes... that would be epic

yeah

reflex hands down when it comes to actual game play and use of controller.

WillyB wrote: reflex hands down when it comes to actual game play and use of controller.

yeah

WillyB wrote: reflex hands down when it comes to actual game play and use of controller.

Haha are you for real. Whenever I play reflex I feel like I am on a damn slip n slide.

WillyB wrote: reflex hands down when it comes to actual game play and use of controller.

NateDawg122 wrote: Haha are you for real. Whenever I play reflex I feel like I am on a damn slip n slide.

Yes it feels like your riding a dirt bike on ice with street tires but the game had a lot of potential. Other than what i just noted reflex is amazing. The scrubs are realistic, the whips are sick, the supercross and motocross tracks were great. Ive played the game so much now that i have learned to adapt to the slick conditions and i am pretty darn fast on the game.

WillyB wrote: reflex hands down when it comes to actual game play and use of controller.

NateDawg122 wrote: Haha are you for real. Whenever I play reflex I feel like I am on a damn slip n slide.

keeptwostrokesalive wrote: Yes it feels like your riding a dirt bike on ice with street tires but the game had a lot of potential. Other than what i just noted reflex is amazing. The scrubs are realistic, the whips are sick, the supercross and motocross tracks were great. Ive played the game so much now that i have learned to adapt to the slick conditions and i am pretty darn fast on the game.

Well I would be willing to challenge ya if I ever played the game anymore. I will take you on in Alive though, haha.

NateDawg122 wrote: Haha are you for real. Whenever I play reflex I feel like I am on a damn slip n slide.

keeptwostrokesalive wrote: Yes it feels like your riding a dirt bike on ice with street tires but the game had a lot of potential. Other than what i just noted reflex is amazing. The scrubs are realistic, the whips are sick, the supercross and motocross tracks were great. Ive played the game so much now that i have learned to adapt to the slick conditions and i am pretty darn fast on the game.

NateDawg122 wrote: Well I would be willing to challenge ya if I ever played the game anymore. I will take you on in Alive though, haha.

i'll kick both your asses on Excitebike Wii

You guys do know you can tune the bike? Adjust your tires to full sticky and that riding on ice sensation should be less noticeable.

I still play all of them except Alive, the others are still fun but I am glad everyone who had anything to do with Alive got fired, they deserved it.