2002 CR125 Build *Complete*

yjgfikl
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Edited Date/Time 12/25/2017 3:53pm
Alright I've had this bike for a little while now and finally got to the point where it's now time to create a Vital account and rebuild it. Bought a 2002 CR125 off Craigslist in February 2016 that was in absolutely horrible condition. Current plan is to make it a bike that I'm not embarrassed to ride while also not spending too ridiculous an amount of money. Mostly cosmetic upgrades, full mechanical rebuild(s), and some minor performance upgrades. I'd like to keep it feeling like a 125 since they're so fun to ride.

Here it is the day I brought it home for $800. Looking back on it, it was definitely worth less.



There were too many things wrong with it to list (starting with black plastics), but I'll show some of the highlights:

Pipe was sanded down lazily and incompletely. Previous owner probably tried to polish it and gave up, so now it's rusted. Wrong hardware on the rear brake, carb lines routed all over the place, footpegs from who knows what bike(s).


Rear brake guards/guides were missing, and the line had duct tape over a hole in an attempt to conceal a leak. So of course it didn't work. Wheel is in surprisingly good shape. Both chain tensioner bolts are stripped beyond usage.


Again, carb breather/overflow lines all over the place, carb covered in spooge, the usual. A DIFFERENT footpeg on the left side.


Sprocket and chain worn well beyond any reasonable limit. Chain guide was loose and missing hardware.


Silencer was bent and full of spooge, plastics were held together by oversized carriage bolts without any nuts


The airbox really speaks for itself


Right side radiator also speaks for itself. Basically the whole right side of the bike was bent (including the throttle housing, seriously??)


Anyhow my plan is to try to post a daily update if there's any interest. Luckily I have a bit of a head start on the progress so I can post even on days without any progress when I'm too tired from work or am otherwise busy.
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Calles
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3/6/2017 3:54am
I like the "stock" seat bolts
wsc96
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Daily updates for sure. I feel sorry for this bike. Better days ahead for it.
JWACK
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3/6/2017 7:02am
Lots of love needed.
3/6/2017 2:23pm
JWACK wrote:
Lots of love needed.
Good to see it will be getting the love it deserves.

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yjgfikl
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3/6/2017 8:49pm Edited Date/Time 3/6/2017 8:53pm
Time for my second update. I couldn't deal with the condition it was in (and the color) and wanted to ride it for the time being until it was the right time to rebuild.

I painted the pipe with some header paint but that didn't last long. Then I picked up all the necessary hardware just to make it somewhat safe to ride. I also got some other cheap parts off eBay like a new rear brake and old faded plastics. It spent the remainder of 2016 looking like this:


However, just to get it there was a chore. The drain plug boss was cracked from what I assume is over tightening, and all the case threads were stripped.


We flipped the bike over, cleaned it up, and welded over the crack just to get a seal.


Some dirty cast aluminum welds:


Finally I drilled it out, tapped it, and installed a helicoil. Unfortunately I didn't get it 100% straight in so I'll have to machine the case surface later to get a proper seal on the drain plug crush washer. I survived with a rubber washer and RTV for the time being.


The subrame exhaust mount was also broken since the silencer was bent over the tire enough to where the tire would bottom out on the silencer. The tab was ready to break off.


We fixed the bend in the pipe with a torch and some negotiation, then re-welded the subframe mount.


More updates to follow!
pmshortt2
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3/7/2017 7:26am
Wow. This poor bike was on its deathbed and you are reviving it. Nice to see! I'll follow this build for sureCool
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3/7/2017 8:04am
Mud in the air box? It would have to have been completely flooded at some point, I would think. Did you take a look at the top end to check for damage?
Calles
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You are a brave sob to swing a leg over that thing, i would never even think of going to a track with it much less jump it
yjgfikl
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3/7/2017 7:09pm
KooyaKooya wrote:
Mud in the air box? It would have to have been completely flooded at some point, I would think. Did you take a look at the...
Mud in the air box? It would have to have been completely flooded at some point, I would think. Did you take a look at the top end to check for damage?
Dude I honestly thought it was mold when I first opened it up. The bike surprisingly ran fine for the last year or so. But rest assured, it was an absolute DOG. Probably more so than the stock CRs. I'll have pictures up in this thread as I get into the motor.
yjgfikl
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3/7/2017 9:52pm Edited Date/Time 3/7/2017 9:55pm
Sometime in Q3 2016 I started to shop around for parts because I knew the rebuild was happening. I tried to be pretty frugal here and I think it turned out pretty well for the most part, hunting for deals on eBay and Craigslist whenever possible.

Noticed some wear on the right fork stanchion:


Picked up 2 different Showa TC forks(2005 CRF250R, 2008 CRF450R) that slide ride into the stock triple clamps and front wheel (ignore the YZ SSS). I'll figure out later which one I want. Plus I get rid of those ugly silver fork tubes.


Picked up some nice wheels for dirt cheap as well. Black Excels on red hubs (Talon/TCR).



Found this DEP pipe in great shape:


Basically just continued to amass loads of new parts over the course of 3 months last year till I was finally ready this year for the rebuild. I'll have to take a parts photo at some point. This includes all kinds of bearings, seals, rebuild kits, aftermarket parts, etc. from various vendors (mostly RMATVMC). Ended up going WAY over budget but should result in a sweet build.

More tomorrow!
yjgfikl
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3/7/2017 10:11pm
Calles wrote:
You are a brave sob to swing a leg over that thing, i would never even think of going to a track with it much less...
You are a brave sob to swing a leg over that thing, i would never even think of going to a track with it much less jump it
We definitely took it to the track. I had it designated as my 'buddy bike' until it got nice enough not to be. Here's one of my favorite photos, shot this of my friend falling off the top of a berm. He bent my ASV front brake lever doing this!

Calles
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3/8/2017 4:27am Edited Date/Time 3/8/2017 4:28am
Calles wrote:
You are a brave sob to swing a leg over that thing, i would never even think of going to a track with it much less...
You are a brave sob to swing a leg over that thing, i would never even think of going to a track with it much less jump it
yjgfikl wrote:
We definitely took it to the track. I had it designated as my 'buddy bike' until it got nice enough not to be. Here's one of...
We definitely took it to the track. I had it designated as my 'buddy bike' until it got nice enough not to be. Here's one of my favorite photos, shot this of my friend falling off the top of a berm. He bent my ASV front brake lever doing this!

Hahaha
yjgfikl
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3/8/2017 7:11pm
Super slow teardown process finally started!


Rearranged the garage here to get more room in the workspace


Got it all torn down to the frame here, realized how much work was ahead of me:


Meanwhile, I took some parts off the motor and saw this in the carb, gotta love used bikes


So I decided to screw the TMX and just go with a PWK air striker off eBay. Conveniently enough it came with the new throttle housing and rubber cover to replace my bent/missing ones.


Still more updates to follow!
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3/9/2017 5:13pm Edited Date/Time 3/9/2017 5:13pm
Awesome. I just bought an 01 off Craigslist. It seemed OK upon pre purchase inspection. But after getting it home and looking over everything I realized it needs a lot of work. Nothing broken on it. Just abused and neglected. Not a drop of grease on anything, bearings all toast, etc, etc. Good news I like doing the work. Bad news is I got hosed on the deal. Probably going to cost me $1000-$1500 to get it to my satisfaction. I don't half ass things. Hopefully the motor does not blow up this month and I'm going to pull that out next month and go through that too. I'm betting the original crank and bearings are in it from 16 years ago.

I'll enjoy getting this old war horse back in the game.
yjgfikl
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3/9/2017 7:55pm
I feel you man, this bike was $800 and is currently hovering around $3700. Thing is, I got stuck with this bike from a friend. Had I actually been there, I wouldn't have made the deal. Love of the game, I guess!
yjgfikl
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3/9/2017 7:59pm
Not a huge amount of progress today, just got the frame cleaned up. Used some aluminum brightener, a pressure washer, soft bristle brush for the casted pockets, and scotch brite. I prefer this look over the polished look.


Anyone know what to do about the annoying gouge where the radiator shroud eats into the frame?
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3/10/2017 10:58am
yjgfikl wrote:
Not a huge amount of progress today, just got the frame cleaned up. Used some aluminum brightener, a pressure washer, soft bristle brush for the casted...
Not a huge amount of progress today, just got the frame cleaned up. Used some aluminum brightener, a pressure washer, soft bristle brush for the casted pockets, and scotch brite. I prefer this look over the polished look.


Anyone know what to do about the annoying gouge where the radiator shroud eats into the frame?
Some clear decal will cover and protect the frame. I did that on my bike to prevent the wear and its helped
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3/10/2017 12:50pm
Look forward to seeing the finished product.
yjgfikl
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3/10/2017 6:07pm Edited Date/Time 3/10/2017 6:09pm
Cool I'll see if I can find a thick clear sticker then.

And another problem! One of the screws holding the chain slider on was so siezed into the swingarm that I attempted to drill it out and remove it with an extractor. Even with tons of penetrating oil, the sucker still wouldn't come out and eventually broke my extractor bit inside the hole.


Since I didn't have a bit hard enough to drill through the extractor, I took it to work and put it on the end mill with a carbide bit. That made pretty quick work of it, but I had to fish out the remaining metal from inside the swingarm.


I haven't really touched the motor yet and not looking forward to what's inside...
3/10/2017 7:20pm
Nice project so far. I always enjoy seeing people turn crappy bikes into something nice. Gives me the itch for a project bike...
yjgfikl
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3/11/2017 7:49pm Edited Date/Time 3/11/2017 7:51pm
Yeah eric513anderson, it's just a huge money and time pit! But I'm hoping it turns out nice.It'll definitely look faster than I am Smile

Time to pull the lower stem bearing with my ridiculously overpriced tool.


Even so, it's a B to get it to sit right under the bearing race


Finished that up and got some other parts prepped for powdercoat. Going with a textured black on the engine covers and triple clamps, then a gloss blue on the spring. Couldn't stand the yellow, and the blue will match my incoming radiator hoses.


This is the look I'm going for on the engine cases. I'll have to scrape the paint off and polish the Honda logo on each since the powdercoat place was gonna charge me more for it. Hopefully that goes ok.


Now it's time to wait for the powdercoat shop...
billyslad
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3/11/2017 11:17pm
You have taken on a brace project there annoyingly on this type of bike a lot of the bodges were probably an easy fix at the time but due to not having the correct bolt or something else easily and cheaply available

Looking forward to your progress
Rockinar
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3/12/2017 3:59pm
yjgfikl wrote:
Not a huge amount of progress today, just got the frame cleaned up. Used some aluminum brightener, a pressure washer, soft bristle brush for the casted...
Not a huge amount of progress today, just got the frame cleaned up. Used some aluminum brightener, a pressure washer, soft bristle brush for the casted pockets, and scotch brite. I prefer this look over the polished look.


Anyone know what to do about the annoying gouge where the radiator shroud eats into the frame?
That frame looks awesome. What cleaner did you use?
yjgfikl
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3/12/2017 10:28pm Edited Date/Time 3/12/2017 10:29pm
Thanks! I think it came out pretty nice. I used Napa aluminum brightener which I saw on another Vital bike build thread.

This stuff: https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/MCR1458

I think all aluminum brighteners are the same for the most part, just some kind of sulfuric acid. The key is to not let it sit for too long, otherwise it can actually hurt the finish. I sprayed it on for a few seconds then used my pressure washer to get it all off. Other than that, I just used a wet maroon scotch brite pad.

Couldn't swing an update today for you guys, I was out mountain biking all day. I should be able to make some progress tomorrow.
yjgfikl
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3/13/2017 9:28pm
I got some new shoes, Dunlop MX3s front & rear. These wheels are pretty!


I needed to make some more progress on the rest of the bike but was getting antsy to tear into the motor. Just the basic stuff at least. Check out that rust on the flywheel and dirt inside the case. The paper gasket wasn't in the greatest shape.


Got some classic exhaust side buildup on the head. Plug looked awful.


I was surprised there was still visible cross hatching on the cylinder wall. I saw some expected exhaust bridge wear on the piston, like all CRs.


Reeds were in surprisingly good shape but It doesn't matter much, going with the VForce3 for this thing.


That's it for today!
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yjgfikl wrote:
Not a huge amount of progress today, just got the frame cleaned up. Used some aluminum brightener, a pressure washer, soft bristle brush for the casted...
Not a huge amount of progress today, just got the frame cleaned up. Used some aluminum brightener, a pressure washer, soft bristle brush for the casted pockets, and scotch brite. I prefer this look over the polished look.


Anyone know what to do about the annoying gouge where the radiator shroud eats into the frame?
I like to put a strip of weather stripping under the plastic radiator shroud. Just a 1/4 wide but about 3/8 tall.

My 1997 250 was the absolute worst. Had huge gashes before I realized. My 2006 CRF frame I caught it early.
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3/14/2017 8:12am
yjgfikl wrote:
I got some new shoes, Dunlop MX3s front & rear. These wheels are pretty! [img]https://i.imgur.com/OFfHrKA.jpg[/img] I needed to make some more progress on the rest of...
I got some new shoes, Dunlop MX3s front & rear. These wheels are pretty!


I needed to make some more progress on the rest of the bike but was getting antsy to tear into the motor. Just the basic stuff at least. Check out that rust on the flywheel and dirt inside the case. The paper gasket wasn't in the greatest shape.


Got some classic exhaust side buildup on the head. Plug looked awful.


I was surprised there was still visible cross hatching on the cylinder wall. I saw some expected exhaust bridge wear on the piston, like all CRs.


Reeds were in surprisingly good shape but It doesn't matter much, going with the VForce3 for this thing.


That's it for today!
Let me know what advantages the VForce3 gives over the Boyessen.
I am currently running the Boyessen and was thinking about getting the VForce3

I've got the same 2002 cr125
Been going through its own transformation
yjgfikl
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3/14/2017 6:21pm Edited Date/Time 3/14/2017 6:22pm
@wasummer46
The reeds I showed are actually stock. I'd assume the rad valve and Vforce perform pretty similarly.

@kott0n
Thanks for the tip, I like that idea the best!
yjgfikl
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3/15/2017 8:09pm
Got that DEP pipe cleaned and polished up, I think it looks pretty good. It's been polished a bit more since this photo but it looks good enough here to share.


I was short on time today but also got the rotors mounted up. I went with the Tusk kit with oversized front. I know it isn't Galfer or Braking but people seem to be ok with these. At least they look nice!


My other toys are wondering why they aren't being ridden...


Still have a lot of work ahead of me at this point.
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Not a big fan of polished pipes myself but those wheels look pretty trick Cool

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